To answer a few posts here;

Yes, Aluminium production requires vast amounts of energy and is 
impractical for vehicle use, I understand hydro-electric is the most 
cost-effective power source for manufacturing it. Reducing fuel 
consumption using scrap aluminium appeals but there are technical and 
safety issues to overcome such as Sodium Hydroxide fumes damaging 
Aluminium engine castings and how to dispose of the waste? The point is 
amature experimenters are thinking outside the box and sharing their 
ideas, successes and failures on-line.

Have I witnessed a working watercar? No I haven't and I'm sceptical that 
a practical 100% water powered vehicle exists yet but experimenters are 
achieving real fuel savings by burning electrolysed gas from water to 
produce more complete combustion in both petrol and diesel engines. 
Techniques range from brute-force dc electrolysis to three-phase 
resonance drives and are collectively know as 'hydrogen boosting'.

An American called Paul Zigouras attended a 'future of energy' type 
conference hosted by an oil company and asked about using water as a 
fuel. He was laughed at by the oil man but a few months later Paul 
managed to run his car for just a few hundred yards on water using 
hundreds of Amps and impractically large amounts of water. This worried 
someone sufficiently to purchase the rights to his system for several 
million dollars! Willard Elliot can run a small generator for a few 
seconds, Peter Lowrie can run a 1600cc Toyota car engine hooked up to a 
generator for a few minutes using hundreds of amps and three 
electrolysis cells in series. Bob Boyce used to race boats using water 
as the fuel, one day he noticed abnormally high gas production which he 
traced to a faulty rectifier in his alternator, this led him to 
experiment with various waveforms to produce a resonance type effect. 
Recent discussions in the on-line groups revolve around developing 
water-powered generator sets to extend the range of electric vehicles.
IMHO 'Peak Oil' is a myth and the proposed 'Hydrogen Economy' a con 
because the hydrogen will still be generated from (so called) fossil 
fuels therefore the people who sell us oil based products now will be 
selling us the hydrogen!

Hydrogen-on-demand from safe to carry water (if achievable) is the way 
to go but this is mainly being explored by amature experimenters and is 
a long way off.

As I say, a fascinating subject.

Regards,

Nigel 
                 
  


Dave King wrote:
>  
> Do I detect some scepticism about running a engine on something
> that produces oh say 2 litres of hydrogen an hour??
>
> Lets see I have a 5 liter engine in the truck, so as long as I
> keep it under 1 rpm ever two hours I have plenty of fuel....
>
> Dave
>
> PS the hydrolyzer we used generated about 1.5 lph.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> Ah, Keelynet, that brings back memories.  
>
> Those memories tend to produce the same result, being ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
> ha ha ha ha ha hah ah ah ah ha ha ha ah ahah cough splutter ack ha ha ha ha
> ha ha breath ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
> ha ha ha.
>
> You'd be lucky enough to produce enough hydrogen to run your cigarette
> lighter, never mind a car.
>
> Tony
>
>
>   

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