Russell McMahon wrote: > There are two identical ducts in series with an essentially lossless = > section in between. . > = > Per duct: > = > Duct is a very wide and shallow rectangle (a slot in cross section ) > = > - Duct length is (only) 400mm > - Duct width is 350mm. I think most formulas for duct resistance will fail here. If I understand fluid dynamics correctly, this is a length/width ratio that creates a flow situation that's quite different from the one that the normal resistance formulas assume (they assume much longer than wide). Normal formulas mostly assume a laminar flow profile, which can only be expected to start after a length of about 10 diameters. > - Air flow is about 10l / second Here is a formula for round pipes: (1) delta p =3D lambda * (l/d) * (rho/2) * w^2 delta p: pressure difference [N/m^2] lambda: friction coefficient [1] l, d: length, diameter [m] rho: specific mass [kg/m^3] w: flow speed [m/s] For rectangular ducts, an equivalent diameter can be calculated: (2) d equ =3D 2 * a * b / (a + b) d equ: equivalent diameter [m] a, b: sides of the rectangle [m] You now can express d in (1) in terms of a and b from (2), where a is constant and b is what you want. You have delta p and l given. rho is known (at least the range, depending on your temperature range). w can be expressed as a function of the volume flow (given) and cross section (composed of the given a and the result b). That leaves us lambda as only unknown. lambda (probably something like "friction coefficient" in English) depends on the flow profile (laminar, turbulent -- in your case the latter, given your short length), the smoothness of the inner surface and the Reynolds number. For turbulent flow and ideally smooth surfaces is (3) lambda =3D 0.3164 * Re^(-0.25) (If you want to go into more detail here and possibly take the surface smoothness into account, I have other formulas for this. But the principle remains the same; you'd only have one more variable in here and much more complex formulas.) The Reynolds number is (4) Re =3D w * d / nu w: flow speed [m/s] d: (equivalent) diameter [m] nu: "kinematische Z=E3higkeit" (don't know the English name) [m^2/s] Now we can insert lambda from (3) in (1) and substitute Re with (4). In (4), we can substitute w and d like before (with a, b and the given volume flow), and nu is ~13 at 0=B0C, ~15 at 20=B0C, ~17 at 40=B0C (for air at 1 b= ar, in 10^-6 m^2/s). I didn't do all the substitutions, but you'll end up with a formula that you can solve for b (height of the duct), dependent on only known values. You'll get even a notion how much the various parameters influence the result; this could potentially be more interesting than the actual result itself. Gerhard -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist