On Sat, 19 May 2007 01:10:44 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, > >The IR emitted by IR LEDs in remote controls, etc., is just slightly >longer than visible light (shorter than 1 micron wavelength). The IR >emitted by hot objects in the 100 deg C range is going to peak around >several microns in wavelength, way too long for a regular CCD to see. >The problem is not that the emission is weak but that it is the wrong >wavelength. > >Vitaliy, I don't know what your friend was able to see on the PCB with >a regular camera in "night mode" (which is usually just removing the >IR filter and illuminating with IR LEDs). > >IR thermal imaging cameras use exotic focal plane array detectors >(made not from Silicon or GaAs, etc. but from InCdTe, InSb, PbS, or >similar materials, or microbolometers which are arrays of sensitive >temperature sensors which absorb the incident IR and measure the >resulting tiny temperature increase). I don't think you are going to >find them for anything less than several thousand dollars new. You >might possibly find something used on eBay for much less. A quick eBay >search turned up a few hits in the low thousands of USD. The >technology is the same as used in newer generation heat seeking >missiles. > >Sean The only 'really cheap' thermal detector is an IR thermometer. A while ago I hooked up one of the detectors used in these to an oscillator +speaker to give fast feedback when scanning the detector over a PCB- never had time to develop this further, but with the right optics (very few materials suitable for this - IR thermos tend to use moulded polythene fresnel optics) this may be a viable solution as the audio makes it very quick to home in to hotspots. If you want a 'real' thermal imager, the cheapest solution I know of is a people counter made by www.irisys.com. This has a 16x16 array, and can produce images on a PC, however you would need to tweak the optics to work at the required distance. Cost is around GBP700 (~USD1400). Note that as this doesn't have a chopper, it only reacts to changes in temperature. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist