alan smith wrote: > True...unplugged....unpowered....the crux of the matter is I have control > on the source side of the plug and not the device plugged into the wall. Still not clear (to me?) whether you want unplugged or unpowered :) > The device could be a wall wart, a regular plug, so size itself may > change thus any sort of optic sense can't be employed but I'd love it I > could as it stays away from touching the 110VAC. Wire wrapped around > the hot (or return) would be great if this was a custom one-off or home > project but this is going to be a mass produced with as little overhead > as possible. Are you making the outlet (mechanical portion)? If so, maybe you can add a switch of the sort they have in audio sockets. Or something optical that detects when there's something plugged in. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist