>AFAIAA, all car manufacturers quote flywheel power - i've >never come across them quoting anything else. True, but some manufacturers were up to tricks with this, like not having the engine run the water pump, oil pump, generator and any other HP sucking hardware that wasn't required to be synchronised to the engine to make it run. Doing this can provide a 2-3% increase, possibly more, in "flywheel power". -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist