On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 19:23 +0100, slippyr4 wrote: > On 01/05/07, Herbert Graf wrote: > > > > Note that the hp figures in NA > > differ from those in Europe since North America measures horse power at > > the flywheel: > > > > AFAIAA, all car manufacturers quote flywheel power - i've never come across > them quoting anything else. My understanding is the difference in what is loading the engine. The North American numbers are supposed to include the looses involved in turning the power steering pump, oil pump, etc. Other regions may not include those looses. I might be well off on this, but I have long ago noticed that the HP ratings in Europe vs. NA differ, on identical cars, with identical power trains. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist