I disagree with that, do a gurgle for  

Horsebox Conversion

(on the .co.uk site at least - never checked the .com)

and my site comes top, (Jim and Beth's horsebox conversion) and has done so 
for a couple of years. 
I have never paid to list it, and never submitted it to any engines. Simply 
gets there by magic or whatever. (actually, i believe it is because the site 
links to a number of other places and gets spidered, but magic sounds 
better).

Jim


On Tue, 8 May 2007 05:58:40 +0000 (UTC), Peter P. wrote
> Forrest Christian <forrestc <at> imach.com> writes:
> 
> > Although just for fun  I just checked this search term, it doesn't seem 
> > to be quite as raunchy as before.. and even has one relevant hit on the 
> > first page.
> 
> Ever since goopile charges money for ranking things have changed. 
> Whoever is not ponying up enough funds does not show up in the 
> cummershally useful first few pages of hits. So much for 'not doing 
> evil' (but not much good either). Simple math shows that 100-150 
> paying punters will displace *everyone* from the first few pages of 
> hits. And there are a lot more than 150 paying punters out there, no 
> matter what the search terms, even with the new 'we advertise in 
> regular hits but you don't know it' approach seen with ieee.org etc 
> papers. Who knows how much else is going on that has not yet been 
> understood. STILL goopile is not bad as a search engine, given the 
> time and patience it requires nowadays. And it will likely get worse 
> as the number of punters and 'optimizers' increases.
> 
> Besides I have recently experienced having a simple site land in 
> goopile hell. Yes, there is such a thing (look it up). I still don't 
> know what my sin(s) were, but the exit was difficult and lengthy 
> (hint: exorcism did not help ;-)
> 
> P.
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