wouter van ooijen wrote: > I don't need any specific product, I just want to check prices of > various products (presumaly varying with quantity) to see which (if any) > I could sell in my shop. > My next step with this whole thing was to figure out some standard layout which would work for me and order 100 of them for this and future products. If there is interest, I would be interested in going in with others for a bulk purchase if we could come up with a reasonable layout. What I had envisioned was a single keypad which was 3x4 and had both the "telephone" style legend (1-9 and 0, plus "clear" and "enter" labeled at asterisk or pound), and also an arrow navigation legend (arrows where 2, 4, 6, and 8 are on the keypad, and then labeling 1,3,5,7,9,* and # with useful words or not - still TBD) on the same keypad. The other option was two different keypads - a 3x3 "arrow" keypad for those applications where menu navigation is needed and a 3x4 or 4x4 keypad for where numeric entry is needed. If I had the 4x4, I'd have the standard telephone layout, plus "enter", "erase" and a couple of others from things like "help", "menu", "back", "up", "down", or perhaps some arrows. A 1x4 or 1x3 would also be nice, either unlabeled, to go under the bottom row of a LCD panel which defines the buttons on the LCD, or simply labeled something like "Up Down Enter Back" I'm still hoping to come across a vendor or two that just already does this, but if not, then I guess I'll have to put some more thought into exactly what I want (instead of being able to look at a catalog and saying "that will work"). -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist