On 3 May 2007 at 1:48, Peter P. wrote: > In continuation of this thread, I have hinted before that I have a > clamp circuit that uses generic parts and works well. I have posted it > before on this list (eliciting no reaction). It is hardly > ground-breaking, and it works very well. It can be implemented in > several variants, and a zero power version is possible (by adding a > MOSFET like a 2N7000 in series with R1, controlled by a voltage > monitor or by a microprocessor output). > > The clamp current is about 15 times the mirror current as seen in the > waveform graphics from a transient simulation. The simulation data is > obvious from the schematic. The enlarged waveform shows one > transition, with clamp current ~ +/- 50mA (!) (red trace), and clamp > voltages of Vdd+95mV and Vss-50mV, with no overshoots and no other > troubles (like low 3dB corner caused by high R2 - R2 is only 100R > here). > > Of course the circuit is no snake oil, and the quiescent consumption > of 3.6 mA is high. Also, the second and other channels shown (CL2 etc) > are an optimistical feature, since the bias circuit limits the total > clamping capability. BUT by adding a better bias circuit, using a dual > low power rail-to-rail opamp or similar, the quescent can be brought > down well under 100uA and output capability increased significantly. > > One 'bug': The circuit will make it hard for the input to be pulled to > 0V and Vdd, supplying current when the input is nearer than 100mV to > either rail. Thus f.ex. ratiometric AD inputs cannot be pulled close > to the rails (LSB/MSB cannot be attained) unless a very low output > impedance sensor circuit is used. It is safe to assume that the 'zero' > clamp interference input voltage area is Vdd+0.1V ... Vss=0.1V. > > comments are welcome (this circuit has been in use for aeons, I > personally have used it for 18 years, in both the shown symmetrical > version, and single-ended, with clamp to ground and other voltages as > needed). Hi Peter, Very cool circuit. Tidy, low parts count, low cost, good performance, I like it. I guess it could work on 3.3V ok, make R1 approx 470R? If I had seen it before (I don't think I have) then it would have escaped my attention because I didn't think I needed to clamp with great accuracy. A bit more experience now after trying to design with zeners, schottly diodes, etc, and a bit more detail from Microchip on the importance of the +/-0.3V abs max specs have shifted my thinking. Thanks, Brent. -- Brent Brown, Electronic Design Solutions 16 English Street, St Andrews, Hamilton 3200, New Zealand Ph: +64 7 849 0069 Fax: +64 7 849 0071 Cell: 027 433 4069 eMail: brent.brown@clear.net.nz -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist