> The Griffon engine caused a number of accidental deaths for Spit > pilots. That's the reason I was looking it up. I told someone about Sir Tim Wallis crashing a MKXIV at the Wanaka air show, and wanted to chek which Mk it was that he was flying. AFAIK he was experienced in Spitfires BUT this was the first time he'd flown the griffon engined MKXIV AND he did it in front of an airshow crowd. He was very badly injured and very lucky to live. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist