The Griffon engine caused a number of accidental deaths for Spit pilots. There are three factors which induce significant "unconventional" forces on a propeller-driven plane that few 'civilians' know about. P-Factor, Spiral Propwash, and Torque unwind.... Torque unwind is familiar to most of us, and is why a helicopter requires a tail rotor.... but in prop planes it means that, for a clockwise turning prop (from the pilot's perspective), the plane will want to unwind in an anti-clockwise direction, making the plane want to roll to the left. This requires right-aileron to counteract. P-Factor (pitch factor) is significant when the plane has an attitude that is not in line with it's direction of travel. like a plane on the ground and during take-off where it's angle of attack is large. (i.e. the nose is pointing up while the plane is traveling horizontally). This causes the angle-of-attack of the propellor to be different on the upward and downward sides of it's turn. A clockwise propeller will be going down on the right, and up on the left. Because the right-hand side bites in to more air (it's blade pitch is greater) the airspeed and forces on the right side of the prop will be greater, the plane will tend to turn (yaw) to the left, and will require right-rudder to counteract. Spiral Propwash is best described with a diagram, but in essence the prop imparts a spinning motion to the air. A clockwise turning prop will cause the air behind it to have a clockwise twist (in proportion to the torque applied to the air by the prop). The twisting air will have an equal effect on both wings, and on the stabilizer (because the air twists around the fuselage of the plane), and will cause a "rolling effect" on those surfaces (pushing up on the left, and down on the right surfaces...) (this effect partially negates the torque-unwind). The more significant effect is on the tail fin. This is un-balanced because the tail extends only upward from the fuse (there is no tail below the plane). The effect of the twist is to push the tail to the right, (yaw the plane to the left), and this needs to be corrected by applying right rudder (like the P-factor). All of these effects are most pronounced when the plane is at high power, and low air-speed ... i.e. at take-off. But, just before the wheels leave the ground, the rolling forces are not very effective because the wheels *are on the ground*, and pilots have to immediately counter the rolling motions when the wheels leave terra-firma. This has to be an instinctive correction. The yawing forces will have to be corrected on the runway though, to keep straight. Still, a pilot who has spent many hours flying a spit with a counter-clockwise prop (on the merlin engine), will have to un-learn a lot of instincts to safely fly the Griffon engine.... A number of pilots learned the hard way. Rolf Russell McMahon wrote: > Supermarine Spitfire pages. > Superb > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/spithome.htm > > All the variants > > http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/spits.htm > > Located while checking that the MkXIV did indeed have the RR Griffon > engine which rotated in the opposite direction to the Merlin. > It did. > > The Griffon engine ultimately developed more than twice the power > attained by the Spitfires used in "The Battle of Britain". > > > > Russell > > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist