> Wouter - is it OK for list members to program and ship a Wisp628 to > someone who needs one? What I allow is to use my design (circuit, firmware, PC software) in a home-build-for-own-use Wips628 clone. Taken literally that does not say anything about programmed chips, but following the spirit: providing chips programmed with Wisp628 firmware to 'third parties' is OK if for the above purpose, and without making a profit (charging for the cost of the chip and postage does not count as profit). My idea behind this is that I want to sell Wisp628 proggers to those who would pay for a progger, but I don't object that those who would probably never pay for one build their own (but I don't want other people to build Wisp628's for those who would otherwise buy them from me). More Wisp628's in the world is more 'support' for Wisp628, more PIC pages on the web (but please, no more 16x84 pages!), and (hopefully) more PICs for me to sell. So in the end I benefit, or at least that is what I tell myself :) If you do this I advise that you use a 16F648A (room for future larger Wisp628 firmware), and maybe 'sell' one extra 16F648A for bootstrapping to new firmware. The firmware on my Wisp628 page works on 16F628, 16F628A and 16F648A. Note that Rob Hamerling has extended my firmware to new PICs, and he provides accompanying PC software that does not use Python (which some people find cumbersome). But his firmware has sacrificed some passthrough modes, which other people like very much. So the choice is open. Afaik Rob's firmware works on the same chips as mine. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist