> Don't confuse common practise with good idea. I can live > with 10nF as upper limit although I doubt there is a > legitimate reason for going above 1nF. However 100nF is > definitely excessive is you are intending the circuit to work > with ICSP. Again, do you really want a 1.3A pulse during programming? And the solution is simple. You can have your cap for a power-on reset, but keep some resistance between the cap and the MCLR. How much is a balance between drive capalility of your progger and the amount of such current that is tolerable, and the track distance and junk field strength. Keep it short, and use 1 k (with Olins proggers?) .. 33k (with Wisp628, which has a more feeble MCLR drive, maybe even higher when you misuse a PS+ as ICSP progger) and you will be fine in all but the most exception situations. And you can have a big cap (10s of uF's) without destroying the PIC. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist