On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 16:34 -0400, Rolf wrote: > This sounds like fine advice... my question for you though is what do > you code with... is there a 'student' version of C30? Yup, the student/free version does everything the full version does, except one type of optimization (I think procedural abstraction?). The result is code is around 30-50% bigger then with the full version. For a hobbyist this is rarely a problem. It's also in my experience less "quirky" then C18 is, which means it's FAR less quirky then any of the 16F C options. The beauty as a hobbyist of using a part far beyond what you need is you can use an HLL and not worry as much about being careful about code space, ram space or pin requirements. You can learn how to do things, instead of the frustrating effort sometimes needed in smaller parts at bypassing things to make them fit. For professional projects obviously different issues rule. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist