You might want to consider changing the LEDs to something other than red/green. 8% of people have some form of color blindness, and red-green color blindness is the most popular at 1 in 20 males (5%). If nothing else, please choose very high brightness frosted (not clear) LEDs, and a green color that tends towards yellow. -Adam On 4/21/07, Vitaliy wrote: > Thank you all for your suggestions. To answer some of your > questions/comments: > > > - We're working on a device that has the ability to be powered from the COM > port, as well as another 12V source. We're simultaneously developing > software that will work in conjunction with the device. Among other things, > the software controls the states of each of the control lines, and monitors > the input pins. Simular projects are likely to take place in the near > future, so the breakout box is likely to see long-term use. > > - The "dual LEDs/resistors" breakout box someone has suggested draws too > much current, and causes a significant voltage drop, to the point where the > device fails to start (it is continually resetting). So the box has to have > a relatively high impedance, so as to minimize its effect on the RS232 > lines. > > - Someone correctly hinted that developers' time is expensive. Since the > final product will be produced in very limited quantities, it's important to > keep the development time to a minimum (no tinkering, if possible), but > parts cost is not an issue. The circuit design doesn't need to be clever, it > just has to work. > > - LEDs must be able to indicate +/- levels on RS232 lines, as well as the > "no signal" condition. > > > We've settled on using eight MAX221s (one per line), each of which has an > #INVALID output that goes high whenever there's voltage on the respective > control or data line. The pin goes low whenever the voltage is in the > undefined region. > > LEDs are the RGY kind. The #INVALID pin is connected through an inverter to > the Gnd pin of the LED (to disable it when the signal is not present). > > The Rout pin of the MAX221 is fed into a buffer and an inverter, the outputs > of which are connected to G and R pins of the LED. > > Wasteful and unelegant, I know. :) > > > I'm saving the entire thread, there's another "breakout box" project > (non-RS232) that we've had on our to-do list for a while, which may utilize > some of the interesting ideas presented here. So thank you again for your > input. > > Sincerely, > > Vitaliy > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moving in southeast Michigan? Buy my house: http://ubasics.com/house/ Interested in electronics? Check out the projects at http://ubasics.com Building your own house? Check out http://ubasics.com/home/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist