Jake Anderson vapourforge.com> writes: > Peter P. wrote: > So if you installed windows and "took a look at it" which would be > reverse engineering and against the EULA then even if you found it was > actually using a linux kernel you couldn't do squat about it because you > violated the EULA to find it? Hey, you are saying this, not I. Please don't put words in my mouth. Your view on these things is a little romantic imho ... your website shows you are an integrator, that means that you must have seen this before. No 'reverse engineering' is involved. In my case (I found one of these violations), I had a router misbehave in the DNS service forwarding. Suspecting some other host inadvertently running DNS on the subnet I nmap-ed the network. nmap deduces the OS of the interrogated hosts among other things. Surprize, surprize, guess what the router was running. Then, confident that since it is Linux there must be a patch and/or someone else must have seen this, I posted a q. on a mailing list. To my surprize I was the first ... the rest is history. But there is no patch for that router. Similar things tend to happen. E.g. the DNS bug is a well-known problem of an older release of that server and even if I had not found it it would have transpired eventually. People who work with networks know their quirks and they develop a strong sense of deja vu with certain devices. In many cases it turns out to be plagiatus emeritus (of Linux or other things). Since the largest technological (non-military) output of the western world nowadays is brand names, this is unsurprizing. Returning to the origin of the thread, it seems that the firmware Vitaly flashed in is good for another 2-3 cameras, since neither D-Link nor Trendnet are the OEMs. So it's a case of plagiatus obfuscatus. But it seems to be a case of plagiatus obfuscatus of something other than Linux in this case. I hope that whoever put the time in to develop the real real firmware got paid at least. Life in the post-dot-com-bust shark-infested IP waters is hard. And last, I looked at a DCS-900 and it did have the line freq. selector on its software menu. Which makes me wonder what the previous owner did to Vitaliys camera (i.e. what did he flash it with ...). Peter P. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist