Tamas, It is a simulator. And a very good one indeed. The fact that there was no using a resistor for pullup/pulldown bothered me at first. Until I tried the program out. Now it doesn't bother me because the simulation works. I have used this simulator on my last three PIC projects. When I went to actually breadboard them, they ran just like in the simulator. I love my copy and wouldn't give it up without a fight. I believe it is hat good. If you give it a try, I believe you too will like it very much. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Tamas Rudnai Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:21 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] Re: Simulating external devices Thanks Jim, This one is a very nice educational tool for PIC, but it seems to me that it is not a circuit simulator. For example there is no resistor, but 'pullup' so that it can somehow simulate the behaviour of a pullup. Thanks, Tamas On 4/18/07, jim wrote: > > Try Virtual Breadboard at virtualbreadboard.com. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tamas Rudnai" > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:55 AM > Subject: Re: [EE] Re: Simulating external devices > > > > Thanks Anand, > > > > That's a good one! I'm not sure about the price but it seems very > > professional anyway. > > > > Thanks > > Tamas > > > > > > On 4/18/07, Anand Gadiyar wrote: > >> > >> Found this on the Microchip site while I was downloading MPLAB. > >> > >> http://www.labcenter.co.uk/index_uk.htm > >> > >> Does it address the OPs question? I sure hope so. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Anand > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your > >> membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your > > membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your > membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist