Mike Harrison whitewing.co.uk> writes: >... cheap transformer In fact the transformer is built to saturate and thus limit power transfer to the magnetron (and also to limit heater current when this is cold). The magnetron is a current driven device (it can be modelled like a giant zener diode in its operating area). But the bottom line is that one can only put a 500 Watt heater into a cup of water with difficulty. Ditto smaller things. Therefore microwave heating is the most efficient for small (portion sized) food items when all factors are accounted for. A normal heater (electric plate) will have a lot more losses and waste the heat used to heat itself (its own mass) when used cyclically. The magnetron itself is considered a class C rf amplifier for calculation purposes (that means efficiency > 90% is possible). I think that the dc-dc driven supplies in new ovens try to get close (probably >70%). Peter P. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist