From: "Gerhard Fiedler" > So, Russell... question still stands: If Dell service and parts > availability is bad, which company do you recommend for service and > parts > availability? It doesn't help me if I don't buy Dell, but don't buy > any > other either... :) I wasn't going to pass on my friend's subsequent comment but, seeing you asked :-) _____________ Ken said: Gerhard misses the point - if something can be repaired (i.e. the manufacturer has the spares) but refuses to sell them to customers of its products but rather insists that a warranty be purchased they should say so up front when the item is purchased - that way the customer has the necessary information to make an informed choice as to whether to purchase - or to find some other manufacturer with a more enlightened customer support policy. Dell have every right to behave like this - but customers should have the knowledge that they do. _________________ And I say: In my case I was thinking more of desktops. I tend to buy no-name brand "clones" that have motherboards, RAM, drives etc that I can buy replacements for from dozens or even hundreds of stores locally. I'd avoid any desktop that I know needed special drives or motherboard or video card or RAM. The exception is if the RAM is available from a third party supplier at a not too excessive premium. I have seen "name brand" PCs that were uneconomical to upgrade or maintain due to the horrendous cost of a replacement hard disk at a fraction of going size when any clone could have had a standard drive fitted at say 10% of the cost for 5 x the size of drive. For laptops I tend to buy on price-capability mix. I have an Acer (screen dead)(haven't tried to replace as price exceeds PC value with recent market trends), 3 x Thinkpads (unbeatable $ deal), 1 x HP. For friends recently I have bought Asus and Acers. I have a gaggle of older Toshibas that just happened and 2 x Toshiba Librettos that are niche-useful enough * to still justify running a Pentium 75 :-). For any laptop I expect to be able to obtain RAM and drives when/if required. I accept that the motherboard and eg keyboard and *internal* power supply and case components are custom and I am at their mercy. As with Dell. * One of these days I want to try VNC from a Libretto to a modern motherboard and HDD living in a small black box. Should give the Libretto a new lease of life for eg in car use. Tiny but almost useable keyboard, nice TFT display with a miniscule footprint. Add WiFi and ... :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist