The flicker is caused by the camera's shutter which steps down to very fast times to compensate for high light levels. You can fix it by using an ND filter or an aperture (F-stop) == black cardboard with small hole taped in front of the lens. This will yield a grainy picture. Keep enlarging the hole until most of the grain is gone. If you enlarge too much the flicker noise bars will return. Imho resist the temptation to flash the camera(s). You could end up with an expensive camera mockup. Sometimes some settings must be accessed via telnet or such because someone clever forgot to put it in the web interface. Try to read the manual carefully. hope this helps, Peter P. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist