Hi Olin I'm going to send it FedEx today. There are pictures and code on a CD I included that show orientation of the programming connector. My programming cable has a handedness the pictures on the CD will make this clear. The he target board is mounted on an RF board. Remember to disconnect the target from the RF board (just pull them apart) as it is not 5V tolerant. It did survive being connected to the Pro_prog @ 5V the other day but seems like I fried one of the amplifier stages with the ICD2 a while back by supplying 5 V from it. If all goes well after programming you can then plug it back into the RF board and watch it work. I sent the schematic of the target board a while back if you can't locate it let me know. Any critique good or bad the programming interface (or anything else for that matter) would be appreciated. This is my cell 719-520-4452 (I keep it on 24/7 for my Asian and European customers so don't worry about odd hours if that is when you find your self working on things and need more info) Phillip Things should be as simple as possible but no simpler Phillip Coiner CTO, GPS Source, Inc. Your source for quality GNSS Networking Solutions and Design Services, Now! -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:37 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Pro_programer/head in dark place troubles Phillip Coiner wrote: > I'll send a working board and a programming cable over first thing on > Monday. Send it to: Olin Lathrop Embed Inc 410 Great Road Littleton, MA 01460 ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/pic -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist