>> What works is *hiring* good programmers in the first place, and >> motivating them to do a good job. Oh don't be silly. As long as everyone follows the procedures set forth in the company's ISO9000 documents, they can't help but produce fine products. An individual's ability or lack thereof has nothing to do with producing quality. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist