--- Carl Denk wrote: I am not an engineer in training but I continuously drive myself to learn more electronics. :) > I'm not an electrical engineer :( , the formal > training in that area > was 1 semester in 1963, and haven't calculated any > of that. There was > question in my mind if the relay would actually > switch over quick > enough, that the latency of the power supply and PLC > would cover the > time. Since I had the necessary hardware laying > around, I tried it, and > it worked on the bread board. Went through 2 > versions of the PCB where > other things changed (AC voltage and frequency > measurement to the PLC is > on the same board). It was just recently I stumbled > on the issue, after > a year of operation, it has switched over OK many > times with utility As time pass by the age of the components start to show like increased resistance and etc. > power, and then with generator power it fails in the > direction of the > spring moving the contacts every time. In the > direction that the coil > moves the contacts, it's OK either power source. > > By asking when does it actually switch over, I > assume you are talking > the brief time from when the 120 volt is down to the > contacts moving. > All I can say is the 120 volt wire to both the > relay coil and the 12 > VDC power supply are the same length from the plug > strip within say 6". > The power supply is a International Power model > IHC12-34 with over > voltage protection. > http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_16/3.html Read this instead for the calculation. The difference of the wire resistance is minimal at best. I believe there is some where at the site above to calculate the wire resistance. There are other resistance to calculate.... The input of the PLC is one for example. John ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist