Phillip Coiner wrote: > Here is a measurement when I type pic_prog at the command prompt. > The programmer is taking the VDD line to 5V even though I'm not > using the > -VDD option > > CH1 = VPP > CH2 = PGD > CH3 = PGC > CH4 = VDD > > Is this right? Yes the programmer will power the target at 5V while trying to identify it. The strange thing is that Vdd never gets down to 0. Maybe you accidentally left the board powered on? Hopefully nothing broke if that was the case. Please try the things I asked you. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist