>I think the problem is that it needs an adapter. I foolishly assumed >that an 8-pin DIP 10F could be placed into the ZIF and programmed, >and therefore translating those pin functions onto an SOT23 would >work >According to the PS+ Release Notes, thereby onto >http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/51491A.pdf It took me a while to find it but I have e-mailed you the diagrams of the adapter its too big to post to the piclist. TTYL Peter van Hoof -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist