Hmm.. "cheapest" is frequently not the best answer. I took that route for a lot of years, and looking back I really wish I'd just bit the bullet and got something nice to start with. Wellers aren't "cheap" but they are good. I love my Metcal, and you can get them on Ebay fairly reasonably. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist