> on 10F2xx devices MCLR is on the same pin as Vpp therefore you > should protect your Vdd line with a diode (Vpp is 12V so it could > ruin your device / circuit and even your programmer) I tried Mclr with no resistor first ;-( Apart from perhaps updating the firmware (reluctant as on dial-up but will do if really necessary), fresh out of ideas and things to try (PS changed the subject line - despite being 'careful' I still wrote ISCP, which isn't helpful if searching the archives) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist