Hi John & PIClist: bulb detection... ----------------- By using an impedance measurement looking toward the lamp and the rest of the house isolated with chokes good at the test frequency. Instead of using a random frequency for the measurement, choose a frequency that will detect not only incandescent bulbs but also CF and LED bulbs in either the on or off state. A similar technique is used for testing batteries. Hi Carl: House load monitoring --------------------- Some years ago I connected a current transformer on one of the branch circuits by removing the wire from the breaker and threading it though the hole in the current transformer. Do not use a clamp on type transformer, they have a much lower dynamic range because of the residual air gap when closed and so can not see the small loads. The current on one breaker is 20 amp max so that's the size of current transformer needed. Since you know what loads are on each breaker you can choose which ones you want to watch and only put transformers on them. I soldered a resistor across the output winding then ran wire to a Radio Shack Color computer that had an AC voltmeter input card. On the screen there was a plot, similar to what's used with seismometers, so instead of only having one screen width you can have say 24 screen widths all displayed at once. After a day when you look at the screen it's amazing what you can see. For example the first thing you notice is the refrigerator which is a constantly cycling load. If someone gets up during the night and opens the refrigerator door you see the light come one, or if they turn on a room light you will see that. In the morning or evening where there's a lot of things being turned on and off in parallel it's hard to separate then, unless they have a unique current, then when you see a step of that size you know what it is. If I was going to do this now using one of the Onset Computer U12 data loggers (most if not all PIC based and very cleaver) would be the way to go. http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/Hobo.html <- 16C56, TLC549, 8 bit A/D, 4 ea. 24LC65, 2032 coin cell (old) http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/GPend.shtml <- 16F690, 24LC512, single LED 2-way interface, 2032 coin cell, XL330 3-axis accelerometer Have Fun, Brooke Clarke -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist