--===============1175976859== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sounds about right, if this is the case, do i just apply the 12v to VDD > instead of MCLR? it says in the datasheet that MCLR would be tied to VDD. NO! you still apply 12V to the VPP/MCLR pin BUT you must do it BEFORE applying VDD -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 20:49 --===============1175976859== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --===============1175976859==--