On Apr 1, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Vasile Surducan wrote: > It's not 0.3V. It is according to assorted datasheets. Not just microchip, either. (although the 16F54 that Peter specifically complains about still says -0.6 to Vcc+0.6) Still, it seems to me that MOST pins in any circuit are not going to need additional protection, and the pins that DO need protection were likely to have needed it even with the old specs. I suspect Peter's problems are due more to a particularly sensitive chip/batch/unit than the change in the specs; as he says, I would have expected more noise if expensive external protection networks had suddenly become necessary on most microcontroller pins. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist