Jinx clear.net.nz> writes: > Someone got busted in Auckland a few years ago selling RAM chips > that were actually empty. There used to be motherboards with 'cache' chips which were empty. You had to look up the part numbers to find out. These were synchronous cache 'chips' gull wing smd, large, soldered near the cpu. I also got fake LM386 (oscillates at about 8 MHz in standard circuit) and fake TDA2030 (oscillates at ~3 MHz). Peter P. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist