> Are you serious? You just found a list of ~ 1k nerds and you ask them to > agree what the recommended programmer is? And BTW, asking for agreement > on anything else will be just as futile :) > lol, well have to start somewhere :) There are a lot on ebay and they all offer different setups so was mostly looking for a list of recommended ones so I can weed out the crappy ones. > > I plan to do this as a hobby so I dont need > > anything robust. > > Somehow that does not sound very logical to me :) I'm a programmer, and had some ideas for devices I wanted to create but lack the EE knowledge to make them. I've been following PIC's for a while, I love Circuit Cellar :) Thought maybe this was the route to go... also pondering FPGA development but that's above me at this point. What I was hoping to do is use PICs for i/o processing. Sensors etc. Be able to record data and transform it into a way that can be sent and processed by a computer. Plus some other little projects. I dont want or expect to get to the point where I'm sitting in a lab with an oscilloscope debugging, but if I can create hardware to do what I want from a software point of view I'll be happy :) Thanks to everyone who's replied. -Josh -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist