Hi Olin Your suspicion was correct it looks like a device support issue. I have another design that has a 16F676 the programmer recognizes it just fine. (I don't see how you can test for every possible device in the first place.) Do you need me to send you a 18F6620? I'd be happy to send you one so you don't have to order one piece but all I have are in the 64 pin quad flat pack. If so do you have a socket that will support it? If you don't I could send a cable with my header on it and a target board with a device mounted. Phillip Things should be as simple as possible but no simpler Phillip Coiner CTO, GPS Source, Inc. Your source for quality GNSS Networking Solutions and Design Services, Now! -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:08 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Pro_Prog communications not setup properly/ setup trouble Phillip Coiner wrote: > I know the target is okay because I can program it with the ICD2. Yes, I'm assuming the target is OK. I wanted to see if the ProProg is working at all. If it works fine on a totally different target, then maybe there is a bug in the definition for the 18F6620 for example. Knowing whether it is otherwise working would help narrow down the cause. > If leave the cable connected to the target and connect it to the ICD2 > then the target programs fine. > > It was very late last night let me try the -VDD when I get to work. You should also make sure there is no connection between the ProProg Vdd and the target Vdd when you are powering the target separately. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist