>> and the PIC itself is reasonably physically secure > >you did read http://www.bunniestudios.com/wordpress/?page_id=40 ? Yes, but see the message I just posted. I wonder if those in Dwaynes end user market (or any of the steps between) would have the knowledge to do that. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist