> But for what started this thread, I do wonder if a dongle containing an > 18F or 30F PIC doing a calculation on the data may well be a viable > way of doing things That's what I was thinking. DES3 may be overkill, perhaps TEA ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Encryption_Algorithm Or whatever. Any form of dynamic and ongoing encryption would surely deter many hackers, and the PIC itself is reasonably physically secure That doesn't address Herbert's concerns of course -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist