On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 19:50 -0700, Bob Blick wrote: > > Herbert Graf wrote: > > > > > On a similar topic, > > http://omidr.typepad.com/torque/2007/03/toyotas_prius_i.html > > > > I haven't been able to confirm this story elsewhere, but I have always > > said that a hybrid car is NOWHERE near as good for the environment as > > everyone claims it is. > > Only if you believe the Hummer lasts 300,000 miles and the Prius just > 100,000 miles. Personally I've owned both GM and Toyota vehicles and I'd > say the numbers should be reversed. Not really. Remember, the battery packs have a limited lifetime. While the rest of the car would probably be fine (although, at 100k miles some things will need replacing) the battery packs will likely be EOL. I believe that is where they are getting their 100k mile number. Nevertheless, while that article may be a little "out there", is there ANY doubt in your mind that the total energy to make, use and dispose of a Prius is FAR more then other petrol or diesel only cars with similar fuel economies (and yes, they do exist, have a look at the small diesel cars in Europe, 4.4l/100km is a COMMON figure). My point however stands: people must consider MORE then just the energy use of something being used, the energy needed to make the item and dispose of it MUST be considered. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist