Vasile, you are one of my favorite people on this list. You are truly a very good engineer. I have great respect for you and I always welcome your comments. But I always try to be kind also and sometimes I just want to make sure :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vasile Surducan" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [EE] practical course about electronics > Rich, come on! It was no offended, I'm agree with you. > Unfortunately I have a limited english vocabulary, so my thoughts are > "straight > foerward" and someone my answers sounds rush. > > Vasile > > On 3/23/07, Rich wrote: >> Thank you, Vasile. I did not intend to sound as admonishing. I belong to >> IEEE and have for some time. And yes, you are absolutely correct, much >> of >> what is presented is a bit esoteric. I had earlier misunderstood the >> complaint. But still I meant helpful advice and not a caustic >> admonition. >> Later it was explained to me and I then understood. But I hope I did not >> offend anyone because that is not my nature. I am so pleased that you >> were >> thoughtful enough to mention it to me. >> Regards >> Rich >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Vasile Surducan" >> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [EE] practical course about electronics >> >> >> > Rich, you have right but he has damn right too ! >> > :) >> > For an engineer any exceptional IEEE article is good as long it has a >> > minimal >> > decency and is usefull for something. Some of them are based on pure >> > simulations and written just for the need of justify an activity (and >> > advance on the proffesional scale). >> > >> > I remember the beginning of my school days when the teacher poison us >> > with laplace transform or FFT. I have never understood what the hell >> > was that untill I didn't touch the first time a spectrum analyzer and >> > that was in the last school year. Till then I have learned tons of >> > silly problems with signal analyses which looks like houses, triangles >> > or spikes without understanding what will be good foor. >> > >> > Rich, there are thousens of engineers on this world, how many of them >> > do you estimate they read such kind of IEEE articles ? >> > >> > >> > greetings, >> > Vasile >> > >> > On 3/21/07, Rich wrote: >> >> Just wait until you have a critical design for some scientific >> >> instrument >> >> or >> >> demanding application and you need to understand the theoretical >> >> aspects >> >> of >> >> capacitance or resistance, then, you will be very happy to be familiar >> >> with >> >> the math. Or suppose you become employed as a research engineer, do >> >> you >> >> think you will need to understand the math? Find an opportunity to >> >> review >> >> some of the articles in the IEEE Journal. Can you even understand the >> >> articles without at least Ordinary Differential Equations, or knowing >> >> what >> >> Curl, grad or Div means? Try reviewing some of the professional >> >> journals >> >> and >> >> then you will appreciate your teacher. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Hector Martin" >> >> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:57 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [EE] practical course about electronics >> >> >> >> >> >> > Vasile Surducan wrote: >> >> >> Most of the electronic courses are using too much math and loose >> >> >> the >> >> >> real phenomena explanation. >> >> > Precisely that is happening in my Physics class. We're in the >> >> > electronics chapter, and the teacher (who is quite a genius, but a >> >> > horrible teacher) seems to think that to understand and use a >> >> > capacitor >> >> > we need to know and be able to use Maxwell's equations, in >> >> > differential >> >> > form. Oh, we all failed the first exam, which barely dealt with such >> >> > things as resistors in series and discharging capacitors, but did it >> >> > in >> >> > such a convoluted way that none of us could understand it. >> >> > Meanwhile, >> >> > I'm back home designing microcontrolled monitoring systems and the >> >> > like, >> >> > while we haven't even mentioned transistors in class. >> >> > >> >> > At least I managed to get a deal out of him. If I manage to build a >> >> > programmable computer out of 74xx logic that can at least compute a >> >> > square and a cube root (in software), I automatically get a 100% on >> >> > the >> >> > next (and probably last) exam. 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