> I aggree with one of the other posters though, RS232 is > rapidly loosing ground. > It's hard to find a laptop that still has one, printers dont > support RS232 anymore etc. In the PC world, yes, there is little need for RS232. In the embedded world, there are TONS of little devices that use async serial to communicate. For example, look at the number of things available for connection to the BASIC STAMP. http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/products/accessories/accessories.asp And if you want to talk to, or listen in on, one of those devices with your PC during development, you may find you need a little gizmo to convert TTL to RS232 so your USB/RS232 adapter will work. Now, there are a billion designs for such a thing, but rather than take the time, you can just keep one of these on hand: http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/serial/rcl1.htm And I was thinking about what could possible make it more useful to people. Just idle thought. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist