> There are other instances that I have run across that do not accept the speed of light as a limit. In the isntances that I have seen there is a *phenomenon* that travels faster than light. Not a particicle, not a wave, not information. > I doubt I will ever grasp the essence of such things. The essence is creative use of words. Some things can indeed travel faster than light, but only for very creative use of the word "thing". Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist