Yes, the PLC is nearly always on, as the managing computer for a Tri-fuel (gasoline, propane and natural gas (our own well)) 12.5KW standby generator. Concern is even if the piggyback battery was replaced with a new one figuring 10 year shelf life, I don't want to depend that in 10 or 15 years I (or more probably a younger member of the family) can obtain the proper part, and in fact even TRI-PLC is still around. It seems more reasonable to me to provide a simple way to replace a very common battery style on a schedule along with other batteries in the house. The piggyback only serves to preserve the real time clock, some memory and system settings. The is EEprom but a limited number of writes available. The PLC acceptable power is 12 - 24 VDC, and I run it on 12 VDC (beefy lead/acid marine battery) since that's what the engine uses. On starting the brief dip to 9 VDC is enough to reset the PLC, which I work around with a 35AH sealed lead acid battery that came out of a homebuilt airplane we dismantled last spring, and 2 diodes. Like the idea of the lithium cell, would be simple to mount that cabinet. Then do I just break the power to the chip, add 2 1N4001 diodes, one to the board power, and the other to the lithium? Do I need to add something to keep the lithium charged? Thanks again for responses. :) Peter P. wrote: > If the PLC is nearly always on then the battery life should approach its shelf > life, likely near 10 years. In the past, I have used 'piggybacked' backup > arrangements involving a Lithium coin cell and diodes. A really long life > Lithium backup solution can be achieved using a 4Ah cylindrical cell as used in > some computers. > > But the piggyback element probably does more than just backup, it may contain a > clock and some circuitry to protect /WE while the power is not stable. > > Peter P. > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist