>>> The real world will also let you >>> configure the PIC to use LVP, INTOSC and set /MCLR as an i/o pin, but >>> then the real world can lock you out of reprogramming it forever. >> >> Not with a propper programmer. > > I know I'm probably wrong, but I thought the only workaround for some > chips was to place a delay at the beginning of the program before making > use of some of the pins. How does the programmer get control of the > chip before the oscillator starts and the program runs? By using the correct enter-programming sequence, check the programming specs. In most cases this means: Vpp-before-Vdd. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist