On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Bob Axtell wrote: > Are you saying they would like dragging around an ICD2, MPLAB, and > a laptop, when a 4"x2" programmer with an SD card would do perfectly? I thought prestige was proportional to the weight of the "kit"? The really good guys get more than one laptop (one running "standard windows", the other running linux, or macos, or something else.) In any case, it looks to me like the picKit2 would be a fine starting place. According to the schematic, there's an ICSP connector on it somewhere (for the onboard chip, not for the device being programmed.) Tie into that and you can provide both power and a couple IO pins useful for accessing a display and SD card (three pins should be sufficient for bidirectional timing-free communication, eh?) Assuming you don't just use the existing 1Mbit (NOT 1Mbyte, right?) of eeprom... And the general design looks clone-able if you want nice packaging. Use the microchip code for its programming algorithms and add you own UI around it. Or maybe you should have a device that connects to a cellphone? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist