--- Dr Skip wrote: > Would a wall wart and a 7805 (or some value up from > there) make it right? > Does not apply for the case below. Check back Mark Rages post on this thread. After reviewing some of the notes, PicKit 2 is pretty good with short circuit protection*pickit-devel*. Anyway for your case go for PicKit2 unless you want a BETTER programmer*support more PICs and have MORE realibility* which you would need to get another programmer. Debugging helps PLENTY for beginners which you son would LOVE to have. Just step through the code at runtime. A definite feature for heavy users. Some do use without a debugger which is fine if you know what you are doing at assembly. Anyway for a beginner and your encouragement a PICKIT2 is a good choice. Light on expenses plus he may change MCU after a while like AVR which has better C support. With PIC16F877A and dsPIC supported he can enjoy it plenty until he wants to debug it. By then he want more powerful programmer and debugger. John > John Chung wrote: > > --- Olin Lathrop > wrote: > > > > > >> John Chung wrote: > >> > >>> What corners did they cut on the USB compliance? > >>> > >> For one thing minimum Vdd for bulk erase is not > met > >> for many PICs over the > >> possible range of voltages received from the USB > >> port. The PicKit2 has no > >> provision for making a regulated 5V. It just > uses > >> the USB power voltage > >> directly. Another serious cut corner is that > this > >> voltage is also used as > >> the reference for making and measuring other > >> voltages. I think you can show > >> that Vpp will therefore be out of spec in a bunch > of > >> cases, but I haven't > >> actually checked that. > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks for the info. > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from > Yahoo! Answers users. > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist