Anybody remember the NASTY problems in wire-wrapped systems (which what I saw strongly resembles) caused by neatly bundling all the signal lines together. Cross-coupling is minimized by "rat's nest" practices. I'm not advocating mess for mess's sake, but neither am I advocating neatness where it is potentially harmful. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist