Peter, On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:46:54 -0000, peter green wrote: >... > all the dells i've seen inside had standard IDE (presumablly they have sata now but I haven't looked at any dells new enough to have that) A friend has a recent Dell tower machine which has a single SATA drive, and space for a second one. The bad news is that the placement of the parts means you need a right-angled plug at one end of the cable, and a straight one at the other. I've never seen one like that for sale! Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist