Howard Winter wrote: > In fact a good way to get moving in snow in a manual is to use 2nd or > 3rd, because they have less torque which is what you want to avoid > wheelspin. Not for the novice, though, because it's easy to cook the > clutch. I never understood that line of reasoning. Too much torque is not a problem at all in snow or ice, the problem is if you change the wheel rpm abruptly. Driving with a careful gas foot does the same thing, and does it in a more controlled way. I rather control the rpm with the gas than with the clutch and/or the motor being at its limit... :) Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist