Jose, you didn't learn anything new, equally interesting as program
tehnique or academic thesis ?
If you spent a whole weekend, something should be interesting there...
:)

On 2/26/07, Jose Ortiz <jortiz@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> You are probably right. I spend all of my weekend trying to make this
> work. That could have been spent trying a programming technique or even
> better, working on my academics.
>
> On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 21:40 -0800, John Chung wrote:
> > Hmm... Let me explain, I once tried to built my
> > programmer without enough knowledge of electronics.
> > Disaster! Bought PIC Start + and then read more on
> > electronics before BUILDING a clone. Which is far
> > easier and NOT discouraging. Be fair to yourself, you
> > are new to this field. You aren't expected to know
> > enuf to do wonders. Just like my interest in DSP and
> > higher end electronics. Maths REQUIRED! So I am back
> > into basics and DOING back all the maths*and higher
> > maths like fourier once I gotten through the basics* I
> > used to do in high school. It is fun to control the
> > behaviour of the components with predictability :) I
> > know how you FEEL. Don't despair!
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- Jose Ortiz <jortiz@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It is very tempting to get the PicKit and a target
> > > board for $49.99.
> > > However, money is not the issue. There is a BIG
> > > difference between
> > > buying something or creating it by tinkering and
> > > learning in the
> > > process. I feel that if I buy the kit, I will be
> > > accepting defeat. I am
> > > sure a lot of the engineers here agree with me.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:53 -0800, John Chung wrote:
> > > > My advise for a NEW beginner is to get a REAL
> > > > programmer. PICKIT2 which IS way cheaper when I
> > > > started. To build the circuit without problems is
> > > like
> > > > a fairy tale. Besides to PROGRAM the PIC for the
> > > > programmer you need another programmer.... It
> > > takes
> > > > time to understand all those schematics. Vdd and
> > > Vss
> > > > is apart of the MOSFET. You have to open the book
> > > for
> > > > this. This list would be happy to guide you in
> > > your
> > > > adventure. Blinky lights aren't that MUCH fun BUT
> > > it
> > > > is a sure footing in the MCU world.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jose Ortiz <jortiz@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have build an ICD2 clone PiCS (Rev C). The
> > > only
> > > > > changes I made to the
> > > > > circuit was to use 2n3904 transistors instead of
> > > > > BC547 and 2907's
> > > > > instead of BC557. Also the schematic calls for
> > > 27pf
> > > > > capacitors holding
> > > > > the crystal. I used 22pf. I am new to
> > > electronics,so
> > > > > I am not 100% sure
> > > > > if those are interchangeable. I observed that
> > > the
> > > > > base and emitter are
> > > > > reversed and installed the transistors
> > > accordingly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows is able to see the ICD as "Microchip
> > > > > Firmware Client", but MPLAB
> > > > > 7.50 can not communicate with the device. I have
> > > > > checked all the
> > > > > connections for cold joints and bridges. I did a
> > > > > very lousy soldering
> > > > > job the first time and had to recheck
> > > everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this a good clone to build? I am willing to
> > > build
> > > > > something else
> > > > > rather than spend days trying to debug something
> > > > > that is faulty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please help a newbie!!!
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