Martin Klingensmith wrote: > It was the low-voltage programming pin. I thought you said this was on a 30F3010. The 30F doesn't have the LVP feature and therefore no PGM pin. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist