> so I have some spare parts lying around if I need them For a little de-soldering time, an old VCR or TV board will yield many useful general-purpose components and quite a few more goodies, like IR receivers, DC motors, pushbuttons, transformers, speakers etc. A fax machine or printer will get you free stepper motors and gear trains. Ask at a repair shop - they just go in the bin otherwise (likewise inorganic rubbish collections) and it's totally worth it -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist