Richard Have you checked out the Nordic gear? http://www.nvlsi.no They offer a range of RF chips with & without buit-in CPUs (8051 style) Cost may be greater than you want though - can't remember what we were quoted but it was pretty competitive considering that pretty well everything we wanted was on-chip. But I think it was more than $3.50 for the 2.4GHz stuff anyway. Pity that project was cancelled. Richard P On 07/02/07, Richard J. Pytelewski wrote: > Price is a real consideration. I looked at the MC's KeeLoq system since it > incorporated the uC with it. The Linx encoders/decoders are about $3.50 > each; $7.00 a system, which is greater than my target price for the uC + > encoder. I'm not trying to encode really sensitive data only looking to > ensure proper system operation .... I'm really leaning toward a proprietary > software generated code and moving on. I am still awaiting the reply from > MC, though. > > Thanks for the help! > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf > Of alan smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:52 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: RE: [PIC] KeeLoq PICS and RF Secure Transmission > > > Whats your target cost? Look at LINX....they sell the encoders/decoder > chips and can create a rolling code address as well, on the fly (need to > sync the rec with the tx tho). > > "Richard J. Pytelewski" wrote: Alan: > > I am using a data ... and no rolling code required. The data will be a > single byte. > > I have not received a reply from Microchip on my Keeloq application and am > starting to look at workarounds (the encoders and decoders I've found (not > many around) are costly for the application). I'm considering using a hard > encoded value to use as a header to communicate with the receiver (my own > design as well). Since there may be multiple transmitters (users decision), > I'm considering adding a secondary unique address (3 bit; 8 addresses) to > the transmission header and hard code the receivers to act according to the > input. I think that'll work for this application. > > This idea seem workable? Any other encode / decode ideas? > > Thanks! > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf > Of alan smith > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:44 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [PIC] KeeLoq PICS and RF Secure Transmission > > > Do you need a rolling code security arrangement? What kind of data are you > transmitting..ie...control signals or an actual data stream? > > "Richard J. Pytelewski" wrote: Has anyone gone thru > the hurdles of implementing KeeLoq security in Pics? I > am needing to RF data transfer and KeeLoq looks possible for new product > development. Microchip requires a Confidentiality Agreement. They > apparently send you a disk with code. Are there license fees involved? Any > experience in their ease of incorporation into programs? Looking at their > datasheets it looks like its proprietary code that is incorporated into your > program. > > Are there any other security chips I should consider. As always, cost is an > issue. Any help and input would be appreciated. > > Rich > > PSI Systems > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist